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A bi-weekly audio series and podcast service, hosted by Committee on Conscience Project Director Bridget Conley-Zilkic, that brings you the voices of human rights defenders, experts, advocates, and government officials. Vital voices addressing one of humanity's most vital issues. The opinions expressed in these interviews do not necessarily represent those of the Museum.

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Plan B…Not Enough?
Interview: Gayle Smith, Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress and a founder of the ENOUGH Project, responds to President George W. Bush's speech at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum last week where he announced several policy options the United States will pursue to stop the genocide in Darfur; what has become known as Plan B.
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President George W. Bush Speaks at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Interview: U.S. President George W. Bush speaks at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum about the importance of Holocaust remembrance and the urgent need for action to end genocide in Darfur. In his remarks, the President states that if the Sudanese government does not meet the demands of the international community, the United States will pursue several policy options. These include increased U.S. economic sanctions on Sudan, targeted sanctions against individuals responsible for violence in the region, and that the U.S. would propose a United Nations Security Council resolution to apply new sanctions, impose an expanded arms embargo, and prohibit Sudan's government from conducting offensive military flights over Darfur.
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Danse Macabre
Earlier this week, Sudanese President Bashir ostensibly agreed to the second of three phases in deploying a hybrid UN-AU force to protect civilians in Darfur. This so-called "heavy support" package would provide much needed assistance to an African Union force that increasingly cannot protect itself, much less civilians. Any optimism about this "step forward" has to be tempered by the fact that Bashir agreed to this phase months ago, then dragged his feet before reneging altogether. So he in effect is re-agreeing after unconscionable delay. One wonders how long it will be before the package is fully deployed. And Bashir continues to reject completely the most important, third phase of the deployment, which would increase the number of troops on the ground to protect civilians to around 20,000.

In any event, a stark reminder (if one were needed) of the worthlessness of Sudanese government promises and its contempt for the UN Security Council is provided by a confidential UN report that was leaked to the New York Times on Tuesday. As the Times summarizes:
A confidential United Nations report says the government of Sudan is flying arms and heavy military equipment into Darfur in violation of Security Council resolutions and painting Sudanese military planes white to disguise them as United Nations or African Union aircraft.
The report also documents the use of white aircraft to bomb villages. You may recall that the promise to stop bombing people from airplanes painted white was a supposed "step forward" earlier this year. In a few hours, President Bush will address Darfur at the Holocaust Museum. Undoubtedly, this week's step forward was meant to influence what he says. What should be clear beyond any doubt is that in Bashir's dance of death and deceit, every apparent step forward is usually followed by one or more steps back.

(Photo of Sudanese government plane disguised as UN plane from Interim Report of UN Panel of Experts.)


Humanitarian Aid, Broken Promises, and an Irritated President
Interview: Ken Bacon, President of Refugees International, speaks with Jerry Fowler about the current vulnerable status of humanitarian aid efforts to Darfur, his experience with recent peace negotiations, and the effect groups like Save Darfur are having on President al-Bashir.
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Blind Justice
As discussed in my recent interview with law professor Diane Orentlicher, the International Court of Justice in The Hague in February handed down its decision in a long-pending case in which the government of Bosnia accused the government of Serbia of responsibility for genocide during the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia. I won't rehash the details again, but Diane observed that the ICJ's judgment absolving the Serbian government for genocide or complicity in genocide was "perplexing," characterized by the recounting of a large amount of evidence but relatively little legal analysis of that evidence's significance. Rather the Court basically relied on decisions made by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in the context of individual criminal cases. Now, a lengthy story in Sunday's New York Times focuses on the fact that the ICJ did not have before it potentially significant records concerning high level deliberations held during the war in the Serbian capital of Belgrade. Serbian authorities specifically withheld this evidence from the ICJ, which refused Bosnian requests that it demand the information be turned over:
Lawyers interviewed in The Hague and Belgrade said that the outcome might well have been different had the International Court of Justice pressed for access to the full archives, and legal scholars and human rights groups said it was deeply troubling that the judges did not subpoena the documents directly from Serbia. . . . “It’s a question that nags loudly,” Diane Orentlicher, a law professor at American University in Washington, said recently in The Hague. “Why didn’t the court request the full documents? The fact that they were blacked out clearly implies these passages would have made a difference.”
A crucial issue in the ICJ case was the amount of control that Belgrade exercised over the Bosnian Serbs, and lawyers who have seen the withheld evidence told the Times that it "reveals in new and vivid detail how Belgrade financed and supplied the war in Bosnia, and how the Bosnian Serb army, though officially separate after 1992, remained virtually an extension of the Yugoslav Army. They said the archives showed in verbatim records and summaries of meetings that Serbian forces, including secret police, played a role in the takeover of Srebrenica and in the preparation of the massacre there."

One explanation offered by observers for the Court's refusal to ask for the evidence is that it did not want to be embarrassed by a Serbian refusal to provide the information. It is difficult to see how Serbian defiance would have been more embarrassing for the Court than the current situation, where it is exposed as having not even tried to obtain highly relevant information before rendering judgment on state responsibility for mass murder.

The, shall we say, elliptical legal reasoning of the ICJ's decision was already destined to make even more vexing the difficult question of what constitutes genocide as defined in international law. Even worse to learn that the judgment was rendered after a conscious decision not to obtain all the relevant facts.

(Photo of Peace Palace in The Hague, seat of the ICJ.)

Pimp My . . . You Know, My Whatchamacallit
A colleague recently called my attention to a screed titled "Pimp My Genocide." The author, a writer named Brendan O'Neill, made a few interesting points about politicization of the term "genocide" (newsflash -- genocide involves politics!) in what was otherwise a rather bizarre rant that left me scratching my head. I thought maybe the guy spends most of his time in some alternative reality that resembles ours, but is still different. Then I found an interview with Mr. O'Neill on NPR's On The Media where he drops this stink bomb in discussing the Armenian genocide:
But it's not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a genocide, in the sense that there was a concerted attempt by the Turkish authorities to destroy every single Armenian.
Oh, dear. That's the kind of statement of revealing ignorance that every blowhard must dread making on national radio, if he stopped bloviating long enough to worry about what he's actually saying. As most readers of this blog will know, "genocide" as defined in international law accepted the world over (which is the only definition really relevant to public policy debates) is violence committed with the intent to destroy a group "in whole or in part." Now the question of what "in part" means raises a lot of problems, and generates many of the "is it or isn't it?" debates that can be so fruitless and distracting and, yes, politically charged. But the issue of whether something is genocide simply does not turn on whether perpetrators intended "to destroy every single" member of the target group.

Brendan O'Neill is certainly free to defend mass murderers on the ground that they did not intend "to destroy every single" one of their potential victims. But he needs to come up with his own term for the crime they haven't committed.

Advocacy and Action
Interview: Bec Hamilton, co-founder of the Harvard Darfur Action Group and a representative of the Genocide Intervention Network (GI-Net), discusses the movement to prevent genocide in Darfur, especially in regard to student activism, and her work to build a permanent political constituency against genocide and mass atrocity . Bec highlights two of GI-Net's newest initiatives, Darfur Scores, which provides report cards for all members of Congress dependent on their level of action on the Darfur issue; and 1-800-GENOCIDE, a genocide hot-line that will connect you directly with your representative's office.

This interview is the last of three that Voices on Genocide Prevention is producing in conjunction with Facing History and Ourselves. Bec Hamilton will participate in an online discussion on March 26th and 27th which you can join by registering here.

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Genocide Prevention Roadblocks
Interview: Former Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights from 1993 – 1998, and the United States Ambassador to the Czech Republic from 1998 – 2000, John Shattuck now heads the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation in Boston. In this interview, he discusses the politics of responding to genocide and the roadblocks encountered and caused by government agencies, the syndromes of past interventions gone bad, the public opinion stalemate, and the conflict resolution paradox. Mr. Shattuck concludes with ideas for bursting through these roadblocks and responding to low level conflicts before they turn into genocide.

This interview is the second of three that Voices on Genocide Prevention is producing in conjunction with Facing History and Ourselves. John Shattuck will participate in an online discussion on March 19th and 20th which you can join by registering here.

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Talk Back
Just a reminder -- this week's interview with former Assistant Secretary of State John Shattuck is the second of three episodes that we are producing in conjunction with Facing History and Ourselves. Facing History is doing an online seminar, including online discussions with our guests. You can sign up for the seminar here.

The Legacy of Raphael Lemkin
Interview: Omer Bartov, John P. Birkelund Distinguished Professor of European History at Brown University, details the legacy of Raphael Lemkin, the Jewish lawyer from Poland who coined the term genocide. He also discusses whether mass violence is different today than earlier in human existence as well as the significance of the codification since the Holocaust of international prohibitions against genocide.

This interview is the first of three that Voices on Genocide Prevention is producing in conjunction with Facing History and Ourselves. Professor Bartov will participate in an online discussion on March 12th and 13th which you can join by registering here.

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Facing History
Our next three regular episodes of Voices on Genocide Prevention will be collaborations (we actually don't like that word) with our friends at Facing History and Ourselves. Facing History is doing an online seminar, including online discussions with our guests after the programs. You can register here. And who are the guests? Professor Omer Bartov (pictured) of Brown University will discuss the legacy of Raphael Lemkin; former Assistant Secretary of State John Shattuck will discuss the politics of responding to genocide; and activist Rebecca Hamilton will discuss anti-genocide activism. And now might be a good time to mention that the theme music for the interviews is courtesy of Califone.

“O, Be Some Other Name!”
I wrote a couple of weeks ago about the resolution working its way way through the U.S. House that would recognize the killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in 1915 and succeeding years as "genocide." There's a good chance the non-binding resolution will pass. WaPo's Jackson Diehl addresses the issue in Monday's paper:
Here is a debate that could occur only in Washington -- a bizarre mix of frivolity and moral seriousness, of constituent pandering, far-flung history and front-line foreign policy. And that's just on the American side; in Turkey there is the painful struggle of a deeply nationalist society to come to terms with its past, and in the process become more of the Western democracy it wants to be.
As I suggested before, Washington is not the best place for this discussion to take place, Turkey is. But the debate there has been short-circuited. As Diehl puts it:
After all, historians outside of Turkey are pretty much unanimous in agreeing that atrocities against Armenians worthy of the term genocide did occur. Though Congress may look silly with its "findings," the continuing inability of the Turkish political class to come to terms with history, and temper its nationalism, may be the country's single most serious political problem. Prominent Turkish intellectuals, including a Nobel Prize winner, have been prosecuted in recent years under laws criminalizing "insults" to Turkey -- such as accurate accounts of the genocide. In January a prominent ethnic Armenian journalist was murdered by an ultranationalist teenager.

See You In Court (1993 edition)
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) handed down its decision Monday in “Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Bosnia and Herzegovina v. Serbia and Montenegro).” That’s the long name for the case that the government of Bosnia brought in 1993 against what was then known as the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) – Serbia and Montenegro. Since then, Serbia and Montenegro have also split. In the case, Bosnia contended that the FRY was violating its obligations under the UN Genocide Convention, by being responsible for genocide in Bosnia. The ICJ – not to be confused with the International Criminal Court (ICC) – is an organ of the United Nations that adjudicates disputes between states. Unlike the ICC, it does not determine individual criminal guilt.

The ICJ held Serbia very narrowly responsible for failing to prevent the massacres at Srebrenica and for failing to fulfill its obligations to cooperate with the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in apprehending Bosnian Serb General Radko Mladic, who is accused of genocide at Srebrenica. Here are key findings:
The court concluded that there was no genocide in Bosnia, except for the massacres in July 1995 around Srebrenica. Therefore, there could be no question of FRY responsibility for genocide, except with regard to its responsibility for Srebrenica. Because the ICJ was exercising jurisdiction under the Genocide Convention, it did not determine whether crimes against humanity or war crimes had been committed or FRY responsibilities for such crimes.

The FRY was not directly responsible for the genocide at Srebrenica, because the Bosnian Serb military units that carried out the Srebrenica massacres were not legally “organs” of the FRY, nor were the Bosnian Serb political and military leaders acting under the direction or control of the FRY.

The FRY was not responsible for “complicity in genocide,” a separate offense under the Genocide Convention, because it was not established that the FRY provided aid or assistance to the perpetrators at Srebrenica with knowledge that those perpetrators had the specific intent to commit genocide.

The court did, however, conclude that the FRY violated its duty to try to prevent genocide:
In view of their undeniable influence and of the information, voicing serious concern, in their possession, the Yugoslav federal authorities should, in the view of the Court, have made the best efforts within their power to try and prevent the tragic events then taking shape [at Srebrenica in July 1995], whose scale, though it could not have been foreseen with certainty, might at least have been surmised.
(Photo courtesy Ron Haviv.)

Back from the Field: A Report of Uganda, Congo and Darfur
Interview: Just back from Northern Uganda and Eastern Congo, John Prendergast of the International Crisis Group, returns to the program to talk with Jerry Fowler about his trip, the new ENOUGH campaign, his upcoming book, and the ongoing Darfur peace talks in Tripoli.
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Knock, Knock
NATO troops raided the homes of Sasa and Sonja Karadzic in Bosnia early Tuesday morning. This is a bit of unfinished business from the 1990s. Their father, Radovan Karadzic, was president of the so-called Republika Srpska and is wanted by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) for genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Along with Ratko Mladic, the Bosnian Serb military commander, he is the most notorious figure still at large. NATO troops have been in Bosnia since late 1995, and for much that time it has been believed that Karadzic was in Bosnia. An enduring question has been why NATO has not undertaken a more dedicated effort to apprehend him. (Photo © UN.)

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